I’ve written more than once about the relative merits of Bob Barr over John McCain, but Andrew Sullivan, who can probably be classed among the libertarian-leaning conservative crowd has been a big fan of Barack Obama the past few months:
The conflicts that any libertarian-conservative feels in backing Obama in part to punish what the Bush Republicans have done at home and abroad are real enough.
It is indeed depressing to know that Obama backed the farm bill, will raise my taxes even more, has no intention of tackling entitlement spending, etc. And Barr may become an attractive proposition for Obamacons for these reasons. McCain’s fiscal policy is, alas, no more likely to reduce the debt and will almost certainly increase it more than Obama over four years. He is also beholden to many of the forces on the far right that dismay so many of us small-government, individual freedom types. But I’m not an ideologue, and maybe an Obama presidency would galvanize reform on the right in ways impossible under McCain.
I enjoy reading Sullivan because he’s usually pretty smart, but this is really just so much nonsense, and it strikes me as the same sort of stuff that we saw from him in 2004 when he went head-over-heels for John Kerry largely based on George Bush’s stance on gay rights issues.
If you really are a small government, pro-market libertarian conservative and you’re faced with a choice between an unreconstructed pro-government liberal like Barack Obama and a fairly decent libertarian conservative like Bob Barr, it would seem to me that the choice would be blindingly obvious.
Barr in a heartbeat.
Yes, it’s true that I voted for Barack Obama in the Virginia Primary, but as I said back then, that was for a very specific reason:
Issues aside, I have come to the conclusion that the worst thing that has happened to this country has been the fact that we’ve been living in a Bush-Clinton-Bush dynasty for the past 20 years. The first Bush Administration wasn’t all that bad, and George H.W. Bush was, faults aside, a relatively decent person. But you wouldn’t have known that from the rhetoric thrown at him from both the left and the right. Then, when Bill & Hillary Clinton came to power in 1993 — and, make no mistake, these two have always been a team — the political atmosphere in this country changed, and it changed for the worse.
It wasn’t all the Clintons either, almost from the day the Clinton Administration came into office there was this element of the right whose opposition to the President was nothing short of venomous. There were allegations that Bill Clinton was involved in drug-running (remember Mena anyone ?), that Vince Foster had been murdered, that Bill had an illegitimate black child, even that the Clinton Administration administered the Oklahoma City bombing. It was the era of the militas, and black helicopter conspiracy theories, and the Y2K nonsense.
And it was the era when the Contract for America died on the altar of the Lewinsky scandal and ill-considered impeachment hearings.
The mission in February was to stop Hillary Clinton, not just because of what she believed in but because of who she was and what she represented in American politics. That mission has been accomplished notwithstanding the fact that the former First Lady continues her Potemkin Village like campaign. As it happened, the easiest way to do that in February was to support Barack Obama. If someone else had been her primary rival on February 12th, I would have voted for them for the same reasons — the Clintons needed to be stopped.
That mission has been accomplished, although the consequences of their defeat for their party and the nation remain to be seen.
But now we’re talking about the General Election and putting Barack Obama in the White House would be as dumb an idea as putting John McCain in the White House, albeit for different reasons. If you believe in individual liberty and small government, there really isn’t any intellectually honest way to support either of these guys.
I do agree with Andrew on one point, there have been some successes this campaign season worth mentioning:
[T]he defeat of Giulaini’s neofascist tendencies, Romney’s callow theoconservatism and Huckabee’s Christianist schtick has been a huge gain. And the defeat of the Clintons an even bigger one.
And to think that a year ago we all thought we’d have to choose between Rudy Giuliani and the Hildabeast.

May 21st, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Some interesting information about Bob Barr flying around out there, but here are the facts.
Bob Barr is currently at 7% nationally in the polls and he just announced his run for President. Thats better than any third party (not independent)candidate starting off since way back with Teddy Roosevelt and the BullMoose Party. For example, in 1992 Ross Perot started out at 5% and didn’t reach 7% until September, Bob Barr is already there. His campaign is on fire by third party standards and he could catch fire nationally and make this thing go.
Bob Barr was the person that made the proclaimation to make Ron Paul the Libertarian Nominee for President if he did not succeed in the Republican Party. Bob Barr introduced Ron Paul and the CPAC convention in Virginia this year – watch the video about what he says about Ron Paul.
Bob Barr on the issues –
Patriot Act – Yes he voted for it and tried to add a sunset clause to it. Six months later he was yelling against it saying it was the worst piece of law ever, and he regreted voting for it.
National ID – He has been one of the top leaders against the National ID, he has lead many bills against it.
Illegal Immigration – He has an A+ from Numbers USA the largest organization fighting illegal immigration.
IRS – Wants to abolish the IRS
Would allow younger tax payers to opt out of Social Security
Vote to get rid of the Marriage Tax Penalty
Drugs – Yes he had been a major opponent of illegal drugs, and still is on the hard drugs side (crack, meth, etc) however he is now for Medical Marijuana and now says that states have the right to implement their own drug laws and it should NOT be a federal issue.
He is for getting out of the United Nations
Is against allowing US Troops under United Nations Command
He is against NAFTA, GATT and the WTO
Against the International Monetary Fund
Voted NO on Most Favored Nation for China
Voted agianst “FastTrack” authority on trade
Voted NO on 15.2 billion Foreign Operations money that included debt relief to countries and a population control fund.
He knows about and is against the North American Union
CoSponsored a bill allowing for prayer in public schools
He knows about and is against the TransTexas Corridor (NAFTA super Highway)
He wants to completely withdraw our military from over 75 countries
He is against the Iraq war, and would begin a calculated withdraw
from that country.
He is against any military bombing of Iran
He voted against the invasion of Kosovo.
He wants to implement a program that will end the United States dependency completely from foriegn oil.
He is a leading advocate of Property Rights and Habeas Corpus issues, and has joined and helped to create an area, along with other conservatives, within the ACLU to help those who need help with those and other conservative issues.
He is not perfect:
He has mentioned some foreign intradiction in South America, has been reported to have paid for his former wife to have an abortion (while being a stong pro-lifer) – however there is no proof his wife wouldn’t have had one with or without his paying for it, and may even be reason for his divorce to her – nobody knows because its personal. Has been married 2 other times.
Voted YES to reform the Bancruptcy Overhaul- which was a scam the Credit Card Companies pushed
While he has some minor flaws, overall he has a great record and is a million times better than McCain or Obama
June 15th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I am a McCain supporter that has issues with his stance on immigration and some other issues. I like almost all of Barr’s positions, however I don’t believe in an immediate withdrawl from Iraq. I think within a year or so of the new presidency so Iraq can have a safe election in ‘09. All in all I think I’ll be voting for Bob Barr.