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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://belowthebeltway.com/2008/11/25/not-a-very-good-start/comment-page-1/#comment-257218</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Somebody stole my name...I would have a rebuttal for the loser who stole my identity, but you pretty much covered it Doug.  From now on I will call myself Matt the Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Somebody stole my name&#8230;I would have a rebuttal for the loser who stole my identity, but you pretty much covered it Doug.  From now on I will call myself Matt the Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://belowthebeltway.com/2008/11/25/not-a-very-good-start/comment-page-1/#comment-257112</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Navy is seeking to place an Outlying Landing Field (OLF) in Camden County that will remove up to 53,000 acres of valuable, productive farmland from the county’s tax rolls.

Please keep in mind that the OLF will not create any jobs for our community and will not be of economic benefit to our area. We have discovered that the current OLF at Fentress Field in Chesapeake, Virginia, employs only 38 military personnel (Section 3.5.1.1 of the 2003 FEIS) and has attracted virtually no economic development.

The additional OLF in Camden County is to serve the Master Jet Base at Oceana Naval Air Station located approximately 30 miles over the state line in Virginia Beach, VA. The Master Jet Base already has four runways that the Navy is not using to their full capability because Virginia Beach residents have sued the Navy in the past and are currently suing the Navy over property and noise damage *yet their community receives over $1 billion a year from the base’s squadrons.* This is simply an exportation of noise from a wealthier locality to a relatively poor and rural area.

Here is our proof that the Navy and the City of Virginia Beach have entered into an agreement that restricts the use of the Navy’s existing runways at Oceana Naval Air Station for Field Carrier Landing Practices (FCLP). FCLPs are simply touch and go landing operations that occur primarily at night whereby Navy jet aircraft simulate landing and taking off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. http://www.vbgov.com/file_source/dept/planning/Document/JLUS_Ch4.pdf

We formed our group, Concerned Citizens Against the OLF in Camden, Inc., approximately one year ago to stop the unfair burden of an OLF from falling on northeastern North Carolina due to decades of uncontrolled development around the Master Jet Base in Virginia Beach. We have the support of our local commissioners in both Camden and Currituck Counties. We also have the support of our federal and state representatives.
We are a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the cultural heritage, the environment, and the economic vitality of Northeastern North Carolina.

It is important to remember, the Navy already has 4 high performance runways they are not using, why spend hundreds of millions of dollars on something they don&#039;t need?

Your support is greatly appreciated. WE NEED YOUR HELP.


Please visit our website at www.noolfcurrituck.org


Concerned Citzens Against OLF in Camden, Inc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Navy is seeking to place an Outlying Landing Field (OLF) in Camden County that will remove up to 53,000 acres of valuable, productive farmland from the county’s tax rolls.</p>
<p>Please keep in mind that the OLF will not create any jobs for our community and will not be of economic benefit to our area. We have discovered that the current OLF at Fentress Field in Chesapeake, Virginia, employs only 38 military personnel (Section 3.5.1.1 of the 2003 FEIS) and has attracted virtually no economic development.</p>
<p>The additional OLF in Camden County is to serve the Master Jet Base at Oceana Naval Air Station located approximately 30 miles over the state line in Virginia Beach, VA. The Master Jet Base already has four runways that the Navy is not using to their full capability because Virginia Beach residents have sued the Navy in the past and are currently suing the Navy over property and noise damage *yet their community receives over $1 billion a year from the base’s squadrons.* This is simply an exportation of noise from a wealthier locality to a relatively poor and rural area.</p>
<p>Here is our proof that the Navy and the City of Virginia Beach have entered into an agreement that restricts the use of the Navy’s existing runways at Oceana Naval Air Station for Field Carrier Landing Practices (FCLP). FCLPs are simply touch and go landing operations that occur primarily at night whereby Navy jet aircraft simulate landing and taking off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. <a href="http://www.vbgov.com/file_source/dept/planning/Document/JLUS_Ch4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.vbgov.com/file_source/dept/planning/Document/JLUS_Ch4.pdf</a></p>
<p>We formed our group, Concerned Citizens Against the OLF in Camden, Inc., approximately one year ago to stop the unfair burden of an OLF from falling on northeastern North Carolina due to decades of uncontrolled development around the Master Jet Base in Virginia Beach. We have the support of our local commissioners in both Camden and Currituck Counties. We also have the support of our federal and state representatives.<br />
We are a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the cultural heritage, the environment, and the economic vitality of Northeastern North Carolina.</p>
<p>It is important to remember, the Navy already has 4 high performance runways they are not using, why spend hundreds of millions of dollars on something they don&#8217;t need?</p>
<p>Your support is greatly appreciated. WE NEED YOUR HELP.</p>
<p>Please visit our website at <a href="http://www.noolfcurrituck.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.noolfcurrituck.org</a></p>
<p>Concerned Citzens Against OLF in Camden, Inc</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://belowthebeltway.com/2008/11/25/not-a-very-good-start/comment-page-1/#comment-256940</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Farms subsidies are as good a place to start as anywhere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Except Obama didn&#039;t say anything about eliminating farm subsidies --- which we ought to do anyway, by the way --- he instead talked about eliminating $ 49 million in subsidies for &quot;rich&quot; farmers.

That&#039;s just a new version of the same campaigns against &quot;pork&quot; that never deal with the real source of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Farms subsidies are as good a place to start as anywhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>Except Obama didn&#8217;t say anything about eliminating farm subsidies &#8212; which we ought to do anyway, by the way &#8212; he instead talked about eliminating $ 49 million in subsidies for &#8220;rich&#8221; farmers.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a new version of the same campaigns against &#8220;pork&#8221; that never deal with the real source of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: immrlizard</title>
		<link>http://belowthebeltway.com/2008/11/25/not-a-very-good-start/comment-page-1/#comment-256939</link>
		<dc:creator>immrlizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can think of a bunch of ways for him to significantly cut spending.   That missile program that has been a total failure would be a great place to start.    A reorganization of the military getting contractors less involved should also be at the top of the list.   

Whatever he does decide to do, I hope it is more thought out then this current administration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of a bunch of ways for him to significantly cut spending.   That missile program that has been a total failure would be a great place to start.    A reorganization of the military getting contractors less involved should also be at the top of the list.   </p>
<p>Whatever he does decide to do, I hope it is more thought out then this current administration</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://belowthebeltway.com/2008/11/25/not-a-very-good-start/comment-page-1/#comment-256938</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farms subsidies are as good a place to start as anywhere. Not only does it lower debt but in theory it should press people to grow more food resources therefore lowering the cost of our food goods. Hopefully Obama isn&#039;t mentioning this as his first priority in an effort to further his ethanol program. I&#039;ll take lower food prices over lower gas prices any day of the week.
As to the bigger spending, I&#039;d start with the military. Too many costs are just lining pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farms subsidies are as good a place to start as anywhere. Not only does it lower debt but in theory it should press people to grow more food resources therefore lowering the cost of our food goods. Hopefully Obama isn&#8217;t mentioning this as his first priority in an effort to further his ethanol program. I&#8217;ll take lower food prices over lower gas prices any day of the week.<br />
As to the bigger spending, I&#8217;d start with the military. Too many costs are just lining pockets.</p>
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