Yes, I supported Obama, as did 69 million other US voters, about ten million more than voted for McCain.

Obviously, if one completely ignores the views of the pro-Obama side, you will receive only the postings of birthers and you will not get a fair debate or all the facts.

Re: Paul Strauss. The poster who alleges that I am Paul Strauss has made an error or is lying. The Paul Strauss referred to may for all I know be a Republican. (I’m not going to ask, I don’t care.) I am Samuel M. Strauss of Ohio.

He’s an Obama-bot (O-bot). In real life his name is Paul Strauss and he’s an Obama Superdelegate.

http://paulstrauss.org/

See evidence of him being an O-bot here:

http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/currentevents/i-just-kod-an-obama-bot-o-bot-on-the-birth-certificate-issue/

I agree with Darkwater, but I am not clear whether an actual LAW has to be changed or whether regulations simply have to be changed. Either way, it is Hawaii that has to do it.

No one can force Hawaii to change the law or the regulations, but we can ASK Hawaii to do it. That is known as the right of petition. The governor of Hawaii is Linda Lingle. And, either way, changing the law or changing the regulations, it should not be too difficult to do. I do not believe that Democrats in Hawaii would oppose the action, since they KNOW (as I do) that the original must show that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Anyway, the point is that Hawaii has to make the change.

He has the power to release his school records, if he wants. Why should he?

You should take a look at the school records that the plaintiffs attempted to subpoena in the case you are referring to, Keyes v Obama. First, they FORGOT to attempt to subpoena Obama’s financial aid records. They only asked for ALL Obama’s academic records and all his housing records.

Well, frankly, I don’t think that they have any right to see his housing records, or the housing records of future presidents, which would naturally affect the privacy of the people he and future presidents had lived with. If he wants to, Obama can disclose his academic records. However, remember in this case the attempt was to see ALL the academic records. No president has disclosed more than a grade-point average before, not the names of all courses taken and the results in each of them. I’m not sure that it would be good precedent that all future presidents must disclose all courses they took and the grades in each of them. (And, what would the grades in each course have to do with Obama being a Natural Born Citizen?)

As I said before, the plaintiffs forgot (but perhaps they did NOT forget) to ask for Obama’s financial aid records. So, they would not have found out whether Occidental had considered him a foreign student in any case.

But, what really does it matter. Say that the plaintiffs had asked for the financial aid records and that it showed that Occidental had considered him a foreign student (which is unlikely, but say that it did.) Does this prove that Obama really was foreign? No it only shows that Occidental considered him a foreign student, and it has the right to consider anyone anything since it is a private organization.

And besides, both the US State Department and Indonesia say that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia.

Eugeniegrandet:
So there’s no way the president of the United States can obtain a copy of his long form birth certificate? No way it can be released to the public without a change in the law? (That’s an interesting reversal of logic.)

Absolutely. The primacy of state law in these sorts of cases is well established. Obama’s position as President means jack-squat. He can certainly ask, but the State of Hawaii is under no obligation to humor him. Any attempt to create a federal law to force Hawaii to release the long form would likely run afoul of 10th Amendment.
A similar case occurred recently in Texas, where the state repeatedly refused to grant consular access to a foreign national (guaranteed by treaty), up through his execution. The Feds were powerless. The Federal Government’s inability to intercede on a defendant’s behalf in a state proceeding is one of the reasons the US scores lower than expected in many good governance/transparency surveys.

Why not just produce it?

There are credible reports Obama was born in Kenya as his relatives there say he was, and Obama’s refusal to prove his Hawaiian hospital birth should strike anyone as fishy. At this point, it’s almost a worse indictment of the president if he actually was born in Hawaii because he signals he feels above the law and not beholden to the American people. What sort of person wouldn’t just answer voters concerns by saying, look guys, here is the long-form birth certificate? What does that say about his character if he has nothing to hide?

There are other issues such as being adopted and so becoming an Indonesian citizen when he was a boy that have also been raised, but just to keep it simple, why are so many clearly obfuscating the issue claiming that just because he has produced a short-form certificate that somehow that proves he is native-born. That isn’t the issue, and I’ve got to wonder how the anti-birthers can continue to deceptively present that as the issue with a straight-face as if they are honestly dealing with the subject.

It should be no big deal for someone running or who has become president to verify his birth here in the US. Obama can settle the issue anytime he wants by providing his hospital birth certificate.

Why won’t he?

Oh for pete’s sake, Craig. Were the Democrats who asked for Bush’s impeachment doing so under “racist intentions”? God forbid people just don’t LIKE Obama under his own merits or happen to have a partisan bias.

I don’t like Obama because I believe he stole the DNC nomination from Hillary via caucus fraud. It has nothing to do with racism. I simply don’t support people who steal elections by intimidating and silencing old ladies at caucuses.

As for the right wing: Republicans who want Obama out want him out because they perceive him to be a SOCIALIST…they could care less about the color of his skin. They equally despise Nancy Pelosi.

This whole “if you don’t like Obama you’re a racist” is a tired, lame, weak argument. Give it a rest.

So what happens, Ron M? you want Biden running things?

Doug
Vatell was published in 1753. please do some basic research before posting or you’ll look like a fool.

Vast
What has been shown is a “CertificaTION of Live Birth”. What they want to see is his “CertifiCATE of Live Birth”. Hawaiian officials have stated this document exits and in their possession. Hawaiian law does permit the disclosure of this document. This is what one looks like. It was issued from the same hospital one day after Obama was born.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347

http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/

And, it’s nice that we have a certification of live birth showing Obama to be born in Hawaii. Case closed. Wait.

This just in..

http://orlytaitzesq.com/obama-certified-copy-of-registration-of-birth-in-kenya.htm

Bye Bye Barry!