More reports of warning signs about Nidal Mailk Hassan:
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America’s Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.
He also told colleagues at America’s top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.
Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe.
At the very least, rhetoric like this would lead one to wonder about the mental stability of the person making the remarks. Presumably, that’s something the upper echelons of command would want to know about.
So, why didn’t anyone say anything ?
One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.
Another, Dr Val Finnell, who took a course with him in 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Maryland, did complain about Hasan’s “anti-American rants.” He said: “The system is not doing what it’s supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out. I really questioned his loyalty.”
Selena Coppa, an activist for Iraq Veterans Against the War, said: “This man was a psychiatrist and was working with other psychiatrists every day and they failed to notice how deeply disturbed someone right in their midst was.”
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General George Casey, the Army’s Chief of Staff, said it was “speculation” that military authorities failed to pick up on warning signs. “I don’t want to say that we missed it,” he said.
Asked if military authorities had missed warning signs Gen Casey, the Army’s Chief of Staff, added: “We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions. Are we doing the right things? We will learn from this.
“It’s too early to draw conclusions but we will ask ourselves the hard questions about what we are doing and the changes we should make as a result of this.”
I would certainly hope so.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:02 am
“As great a tragedy as this was, it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well,” the Army Chief of Staff also said Sunday.
12 people dead and scores of other injured and this is what this man is worried about.
No investigation is needed with this type of thinking at the top. I think it is quite obvious why this man wasn’t investigated.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
I have had bosses that insisted I tell them what they wanted me to tell them. They’d raise holy Hell if I told them the truth instead.
Obviously, the armed forces are that way too.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Good thing it had nothing to do with religion!
One wonders if Hasan can be convicted without Muslims somewhere getting offended.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Coppa of IVAW is completely full of crap: they noticed, and other people noticed. But with the “You must be tolerant toward (fill in the blank, but especially muslims) they knew they could damage their career by making official reports; so they didn’t.
Isn’t PC-at-any-cost wonderful?
November 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Every military base has an office called Social Actions—that’s the Air Force name—all services have them maybe by a different name. The Social Actions program started out in the 70s to reduce racial tensions. However it has grown into a full-blown Politically Correct indoctrination program. Social Actions schedules mandatory indoctrination classes and encourages and investigates any complaints of bigoted words or actions. A socials actions investigation, no matter how frivolous, can harm or end an NCO’s or commissioned officer’s career. This has led to many military supervisors ignoring poor performance or bad attitudes by women and minorities–including Muslims. This was a significant negative morale factor in my career. I think there should be a congressional investigation of this program.
Ken
Retired USAF
November 9th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Our idiotic PC trend is a weakness which our enemies are exploiting brilliantly.
Every one of the hijackers on Sept. 11 was a middle-eastern Muslim. Somehow, in PC paradise, that does not translate into suspicion of middle-eastern Muslims.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
“We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions.”
General George Casey, the Army’s Chief of Staff
Look at ourselves? LOOK AT OURSELVES? I’m sorry, but I don’t think this is an acceptable response after this event. NOT ACCEPTABLE.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
One thing to keep in mind with this is that it is very easy to look back at his prior work issues and say “Ah ha! They should have known he was crazy”.
There are a lot of people in the military that, after having had their schooling paid for by the military, don’t really want to have to fulfill their side of that contract. I’ve seen people claim to be gay in order to get out. When their superiors stopped letting the admission alone be enough, one guy even went to Vermont (or NH maybe?) to get married to another man. Even after his discharge, his superiors still didn’t really believe he was gay. But discharged him more because of his clear commitment to getting out.
If you have a significant number (far less than 50%, but not a trival number) of doctors in the military that really aren’t enthused with having to spend 10+ years working for the military after they get their M.D., someone like Hasan starts to look less like a threat, and more like someone pulling the equivalent of a Cpl. Klinger to try to get out of his obligation early.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Laughingdog, it’s a long walk from “I want to get out, so I’ll tell my CO that I smoke pole” to “I want to get out, so I’ll tell everyone that I sympathize with our enemies and support their belief that those of a different religion should be painfully killed in order to please God.”
You can be damned sure that if he had been spouting white-supremecist garbage about polution of the races he would have been NJP’d and would have had to hustle to keep the door from hitting his ass on the way out. And rightfully so. The only thing that kept this fellow from getting the boot was the cockamamie idea that tolerance and diversity goals require one to defer to any member of a traditionally discriminated group, regardless of what the actual content of their character is.
It is a very hard question that needs to be dealt with. On the one hand, respect for the First Amendment is critical to our national character, and any effort to give the government power to determine the legitimacy an any religion or speech is a disturbing foot in the door to continued and greater intrusion upon our freedoms. On the other, though, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, and the inculcation of violent anti-American, theocratic ideology wrapped in the trapings of religion does not deserve protection. Achieving the desired protection from the violent jihadists while protecting our freedoms and national character in a Gordian knot that, unfortunately, none in power wish to confront.
November 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Obama was Hasan’s ‘rabbi.’ In other words, Hasan tried to get out of the order sending him to Afgahnistan. While accepting the promotion to Major.
How come the general at Walter Reed opted to bump Hasan UP, and not OUT? Obama was his rabbi.
Hasan gained admission to Obama’s transition team. And, while in DC, knew all those higher up’s that the Saud’s bought and paid for, too.
Only thing is, Hasan couldn’t get his orders changed.
Now, Obama is saying these murders weren’t the act of a terrorist-murderer. Show time is ahead. Hasan’s not dead. And, the next fight? Probably between the military and Eric Holder’s ‘justice.’
As we enter 2010 there’s more wreckage on Obama’s road than you can count. And, Pelosi? She just did the world a favor! If this health care bill passes, the entire beltway faces renovations in 2010. Right now, I’d bet a few of the senate dwellers are picking out their camouflage gear. Sure. To survive on PC, and its antics, you need to have great camouflage gear.
November 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
This incident is just another example of big Government failing to do their job. The CIA had this sicko on their radar for contacting a radical Muslim Yeoman did warrant any further investigation. We now have a huge Government called Homeland Security! Where were they at? But at least our President and his left wing buddies will save everyone with health care!
November 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH!
November 9th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
10. Carol Herman says “Obama was Hasan’s ‘rabbi.’”
As much as I love reading Carol Herman’s many comments on the interwebs (and I do), This time (s)he’s wrong. Obama was no sort of mentor or protector of this jihadi. Don’t look for malice when incompetence and PC fear are much more logical.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
What is going on with in his mind when he did that… or is this just plain terrorism? …
November 10th, 2009 at 12:13 am
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November 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
“We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions.”
General George Casey, the Army’s Chief of Staff
This General Casey is an asshole!
Likewise, there are many top brass officials both in CIA, FBI and the Military who needs to be asked questions why they kept those smoking guns signs under PC.
A person killing innocent people in the name of God (Allahu Akbar) is not under any stress or mentally ill, it is called Radical Fundamentalist.
If we do not deal with this problem honestly and now then America’s days are numbered.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:08 am
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November 17th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
[...] Summarizing Fort Hood November 17, 2009 Posted by taoist in Islamofascism. Tags: Bias, Democrats, Fort Hood, Major Nidal Hassan, Obama, Philosophy, Racism, Terrorism, The Media, The Military trackback By now many of the details initially unknown have been revealed, so I’m going to summarize those events and details.Major Nidal Hassan goes on a killing spree through Fort Hood. The 10,000 pound Gorilla that Obama and the rest of the left, especially the media, wish to ignore is that he’s a Muslim, and there are American Muslims who support him, and praise his actions. CNN covers up the details (and says he was a conservative – nice dig at the right, isn’t it?), Obama invents excuses, as do others on the left — he “does not represent the Muslim faith”. He wasn’t the first person in the world to spontaneously develop “second-hand PTSD”, he wanted to kill in the name of Islam. [...]
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